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  • Baptists Together...

    Sharing this from BUGB (now using the name "Baptists Together" in an attempt to recognise thar BUGB is not a helpful geographical term , etc. etc.). As well as the link, here's the text...

    An Open Letter to the European Baptist Federation 

     

    Dear Asatur, Jenni and Tony,

    Greetings in the name of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ!

    When I met with the EBF Executive earlier in the year I assured you of our continuing commitment to relationships with our European sisters and brothers in Christ against the backdrop of our EU Referendum campaign.  As the result of that Referendum has become known this morning I wanted to write to you to re-iterate the importance of our relationships with the EBF.

    Today we, as the Baptist Union of Great Britain, declare afresh that we are one in Christ and no referendum result will change that.  Despite all the challenges and opportunities of political, economic, cultural and environmental change we face across Europe, our first allegiance must always be to our Lord.  We are first and foremost citizens of the Kingdom of God.
     
    We value enormously the relationships that we have with the 54 member Unions that form the EBF.  Not only do we count it a privilege to serve other Unions across Europe and the Middle East, we are also deeply served and enriched by the faith, insight and experience of leaders and churches from their differing contexts.  This not only happens through our formal gatherings, but also through the countless links with individuals and churches that we share with you.  In this way we experience what it means to be the Body of Christ.

    Thank you for your prayers for us during this campaign.  I would ask that you would continue to pray in the weeks and months ahead.  Our churches and leaders have the opportunity to be peacemakers in a divided country.  We are also called by the Lord to continue to offer and embody a prophetic voice that seeks God’s Kingdom in our public life.  Many of you know only too well the cost and the blessing to the church of being faithful in uncertain times; we look to you to stand with us and hope and pray that we will be able to imitate you as you have followed Christ.

    Please be assured that we shall also continue to pray for churches and leaders in the EBF.  As the ripples of our decision work their way across the European political landscape, for good or for ill, we must, together, renew our trust in the Lord and not be afraid. 

    What remains true is that the Lord will be exalted among the nations, He will be exalted in the earth.  One day His Kingdom will come and all things will be made new.

    Yours in Christ,

    Lynn Green

  • Five Lessons... or maybe Six..

    This article speaks wise words into the muddle and mayhem of the post referendum situation in which we find ourselves in these islands.

    In brief, the five lessons are:

    1. The UK's media is a huge problem
    2. Myth-busting doesn't work
    3. 'Facts' are not a silver bullet
    4. Building a liberal culture is just as important as telling people facts
    5. There is still everything to play for

    You need to read the full article to unpack each of those headings, and ponder them crticially if they are to become anything more then yet more rhetoric.

    After the referdendum on Scottish Independence a lot of great stuff was written full of ideas about engaging with those who had felt voiceless or disempowered or marginalised or demonised.  There was talk of working with people in the north of England (a part of these islands frankly no-one seems to care about very much). Of trying to understand why people had voted as they did (either way).  And so on.  I have seen scant evidence of any of these things.  That doesn't mean nothing has been done, it may just mean that I am unaware of it.  And I can't honestly say I've done anything active either.  I should note that people have moved forward together irrespective of how they felt about the result, and that has been hugely helpful. 

    It seems to me, though, that there is a sixth lesson here...

    • Words without deeds are as good as dead

    Yup, plagiarising the Bible verse that lies at the heart of all I try to be and do... and perhaps need to remind myself of.  It's all fine and nice to nod sagely, to agree, even to bang on about stuff.  But unless or until I , and we, don't just "talk the talk" but also "walk the walk" nothing much can change.  Our part may be as a tiny as a drop of water in a bucket - but (as the slightly cheesy song says) "the bucket gets wetter, I know we'll fill it one day." 

  • "I Tried..."

    It was the better part of a decade ago, on a DVD about emerging church that I saw an interview with a Methodist minister who said that when he found himself having to give an account to God of how he had spent his life that he would say, "I tried."

    As I've tried to process the outcome of the EU referendum and the fall out from in, those words have surfaced from the recesses of my mind.  When I look back, when whatever happens has happened, will I honestly be able to say, "I tried"?

    There's the online petition for a second referendum, which we have now been told won't happen.  I finally signed it today, because I felt my gut reaction, whilst realistic, was defeatist: I felt it wouldn't make any difference.  Except that it has made a difference, in so far as that, when I last checked there were over 3,800,000 signatures... and growing.  Partly it is significant because this peition was raised by someone who was pro-leave in response to a comment from the UKIP leader; there is something that appeals about subverting that intent (or that's how I see it).  Perhaps some of those almost four million people have discovered something important...

    Then there are the more thought out responses, such as this one regarding the need to repeal the 1972 European Communities Act in order for Britain to leave the EU.  Essentially, it boils done to a suggestion to email your MP and ask them to oppose such a motion (i.e. oppose the repeal).  It's relatively easy for me, as I have an MP whose party strongly supports remain, not so easy for those who MPs were pro-leave.  It takes only a few minutes, and it is fairly easy to do (go here, find your MP and off you go)

    So that's my short term "I tried" - at least when it's all done I won't wonder if it might have made a difference if I had done these things.

    But there is so much more than the vote and it's out-working legally, there is the ugly xenophobia and blame-culture that is emerging.  Signing the odd petition or sending an email is pretty easy, standing up for truth, love, justice, fairness... these are more challenging.  So I will go on trying to live out the values I espouse, whatever the outcome short or long term.

    If any of my readers voted leave, I bear them no ill will, indeed I hope we would remain literal or virtual friends. 

    Democracy gives us the freedom to choose - we, none of us, can always like the outcome.  I can live with an outcome I didn't choose.  I will work for reconciliation between people who disagree.  And I will continue to do what I do, the best I can, to incarnate the faith I hold.

  • More Baptist Responses...

    From the EBF here

    From the BUS a prayer here

    From the BUGB, in its ecumenical role as a member of JPIT (reposting) here

     

     

    Kyrie Eleison

    Christe Eleison

    Kyrie Eleison

  • On Not Casting Stones...

    Blame.  Whose fault it is that we ended up in this situation...

    So easy to take some statistics and abuse them to lay the blame at this or that demographic, as if society could neatly be divided up along the lines of age or gender or birth-place or domicile or whatever.

    So easy for me to slip into blaming the interpretation of data or the media protrayal of people or groups as  blaming others.

    If blame we must - and I don't ever see blaming as helpful - then I will start by blaming myself (no this is not me in self-flagellation mode, bear with me)

    I will blame myself that I assumed other people would see or hear things as I heard or saw them

    I will blame myself that I did not sit down with someone and listen to their fears or opinions

    I will blame myself that now, when the die is cast, I kept silent when perhaps I should have spoken

     

    But I don't think blame helps, it shifts responsibility away from me and on to the 'other'

    Casting stones, as if that somehow sorted the problem, when all it does if inflict pain on the 'other' and demean our own humanity - one day we, too, will be the 'other' for someone else.

    Blaming myself then, both injures and dehumanises me, and that scares me.

     

    So not blame, not casting stones

     

    Instead, taking responsibility

     

    Accepting that I cannot change the past

    Learning from my mistakes and those of others

     

    Trying not to make assumptions

    Learning to speak out when I disagree (and not, as sometimes happens, eventually shouting at the wrong people for the wrong reasons)

    Modelling better the values I claim... even if that is personally risky (and for me this is really hard - I am not a risk taker)

    Being more open about the fact that in a disordered world, where I can't fix everything and my utopian nationless, moneyless egalitarian pipedream isn't going to happen, sometimes I have to choose which of the many important justice issues I can helpfully "champion" even if that upsets, disappoints or angers others.

    Trying to be "grown up" (whatever that means) whilst allowing others the space to be otherwise, when that is what is needed

     

    Perhaps these stones we each discover to be in our hands could be put to better use...

    To make 'stone soup'

    To build a cairn on our journey...

    To build a bridge - but not a wall

    To build a house where love can dwell...

     

    Ecclesiastes tells us, there is a time to cast away stones and a time to gather stones together

    I am not sure which kind of 'time' this is, but I can't help feeling that either of these options, to lay the stones and stop with the blaming, or to gather the stone together and build something good, would be more positive.  Maybe, just maybe, we can do both...