As I type this, I am listening to Good Morning Sunday on Radio 2 where there is an excellent discussion around marriage taking place between the above people.  With generosity, and allowing diverse views to be expressed, they are talking very intelligently about marriage and its C21 expressions.  Ruth spoke very openly about her own journey of opinion.

Go listen - it began around 7:30-ish, so about ninety mins into the programme if you are on 'Listen Again'.  here's the link (update: it's at 1 hour 36 mins)

Go on... whatever you views... listen!